El Scorchio
9:45 Mon Oct 9
Re: Peter Banks
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Yup potentially, although it's then for the players to understand where he's drawn his line and control themselves accordingly. No excuse for Gruimneroginerog to make an identical challenge shortly after the one he was booked for and really expect anything different to happen. That's just piss poor from him and bloody fortunate the ref was a bottle job.
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twoleftfeet
7:00 Mon Oct 9
Re: Peter Banks
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His biggest mistake was getting the cards out too early and having nowhere to go once he started.
Schoolboy error.
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El Scorchio
6:54 Mon Oct 9
Re: Peter Banks
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Ironic that a player gets a yellow card for correctly telling the referee how to do his job and give someone a deserved yellow card.
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claypole
5:48 Mon Oct 9
Re: Peter Banks
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I got the feeling he didnt really want to book Bruno for the 1st challenge but probably had to because of Emersons card waving.
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Fauxstralian
4:55 Mon Oct 9
Re: Peter Banks
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Might be confusing the buffoons but wasnt BANKES the one who did a home game v Villa when Grealish was playing for them and gave J Grealish about 12 free kicks for leaping in the air like a SALMON whenever our player came within 5 yds?
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ATHammer
4:33 Mon Oct 9
Re: Peter Banks
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He was consistently terrible. Booked Emerson for waving the imaginary card, ignored Almiron doing the same thing under his nose. Booked Bruno for a scything tackle, then ignored a worse one under his nose by the same player, gave a foul so he saw it. The foul for the free kick from which they scored should have gone the other way as the player pulled Paqueta's arm as he got away after winning the tackle. The push was pretty blatant, ignored. In fairness he should also have booked Paqueta for the lunge but ignored that, presumably on a "justice" basis for the previous cock ups.
As the premier league appear totally unwilling to do anything about this high level of incompetence I would advocate the TV companies instead of the inane ref watch actually start a league table for officials, where each Monday the games are reviewed and the best official commended. That way cunts like Banks; Anthony Taylor, would soon find that their performances were not subjectively criticised but objectively held up to scrutiny as the shit they actually are.
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nerd
4:22 Mon Oct 9
Re: Peter Banks
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Why was emerson booked for gesturing a yellow , then no one else for the same crime although all could see Newcastle players doing it . It was highlighted on tele later as well. Utter joke of a ref. Rare you get back and the crowd got every decision correct..
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3:32 Mon Oct 9
Re: Peter Banks
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The thing that annoys about the Isak push on Aguerd is that had it been the other way round it would have been a stone wall penalty.
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cholo
3:20 Mon Oct 9
Re: Peter Banks
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I was fuming about the lack of a second yellow throughout the match, that's just a ref making the rules up as he goes along because in reality he's too much of a coward to be chosen as a premier league referee.
Imagine Guimaraes goes on to score the winner? Gave me the right hump.
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Far Cough
3:02 Mon Oct 9
Re: Peter Banks
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Well I think I can sum him up in one word...
...CUNT
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El Scorchio
2:03 Mon Oct 9
Re: Peter Banks
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Yup, I agree with that completely.
He absolutely bottled it. You can maybe give him the benefit of the doubt with the gesturing of the yellow by their player on the offchance he didn't see it, but the second challenge by Guimaraes was clear as day a yellow by the standard he himself set earlier in the game by already brandishing one for an almost identical challenge. He saw it clearly and he chose to let him off.
That's likely cost us two points and he should be made to explain it, and punished for it. Any shit about ' the flow of the game' or 'being so soon after the first one' or 'one final chance' shouldn't come into it. It's objectively a second yellow.
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Rossal
1:58 Mon Oct 9
Re: Peter Banks
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ok i hear you, but if he needs the back up of VAR for that one he shouldnt be anywhere the premier league
He knew it was a yellow, he gave Antonio one for the exact same thing 10 mins later..... just bottled the sending off
Shouldnt be reffing a prem game for a very long time, its sunday league standards
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El Scorchio
1:53 Mon Oct 9
Re: Peter Banks
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I'm not saying he does. What I'm saying is that VAR should be able to have a quick look at second yellows to stop refs being afraid to give them.
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Rossal
1:45 Mon Oct 9
Re: Peter Banks
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He don't need VAR to know thats a 2nd yellow
After the shitshow in the Liverpool game last week he has bottled it due to not wanting to be hounded and in the spotlight this week
He should be demoted, if they want to start issuing yellows for asking for yellows then they must realise that will come with alot more red cards
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El Scorchio
1:14 Mon Oct 9
Re: Peter Banks
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Agree- it's started to happen in rugby as well. the 'safety net' is too big now.
BUT the huge problem in football is that rightly or wrongly VAR will only intervene in certain situations. (Penalty, straight red) So stuff like the second yellow yesterday just goes unchecked right under everyone's nose. The blokes in the bunker could be watching it and clocking it but unable to do anything. I'd argue a second yellow leading to a red is just as important as a straight red decision.
I do get the point they don't want games to be 'reffed from the bunker' but it seems mad they just have to sit there while everyone can see the idiot on the pitch has made a big error.
The process(es) just aren't fit for purpose. Far too many holes for things to fall though. You can't even rely on it for an offside now whereas at least you could before last week.
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Cony Tottee
12:35 Mon Oct 9
Re: Peter Banks
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I think VAR has really reduced the standard of refereeing as officials know that any major fuck up they make will or should be rectified by VAR (offsides, red cards, penalties etc) so they don't actually have to make decisions on the pitch. I think the ref bottled it yesterday simply because if he sent him off and he was wrong then there's no help coming and as said below is probably better for a ref to side with the so called bigger teams as they know they'll get less grief.
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Vexed
12:01 Mon Oct 9
Re: Peter Banks
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Alfs 3:34 Mon Oct 9
Yeah if you take that one game in isolation like some sort of fucking single celled protozoa incapable of independent thought, you might have a point. Those of us higher up the food chain remember every fucking game we've ever played against them, especially at their place where we've been mugged off repeatedly and then any game since VAR got introduced where they were proven to have benefited hugely from a number of shady fucking VAR bullshit. If it was against anyone but the 4Bs I'd have been laughing like a fucking drain at their calamity VAR decision the other week, they've fucking had it coming.
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Hammer and Pickle
11:53 Mon Oct 9
Re: Peter Banks
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Nobody makes mistakes with such unerring consistency; I’m satisfied he took a bung from a big betting syndicate.
However, Moyes’s unnecessarily negative tactics certainly made it easier for him. That and Toon’s clever idea of falling over in any one-on-one situation with Paqueta, which was evident from the first minute.
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RichyP
11:46 Mon Oct 9
Re: Peter Banks
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as a bare minimum, the decision to book Emerson for gesturing a yellow card but not book Almiron for doing exactly the same thing needs to be explained.
Both gestures were made right in front of the ref in his line of site so can't use the didn't see it excuse because that would clearly be bullshit.
It's black and white 2 payers committed exactly the same offense yet one was booked and the other wasn't.
It's either gross negligence, bias or cheating. So which is it?
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Rossal
11:46 Mon Oct 9
Re: Peter Banks
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Worst referring performance i've seen in a while. Not even VAR related, his on field decisions were absolutely baffling and were gam defining.
Its wrong that the refs are deciding outcomes of games more than the players.
I think the yellow card for 'waving for a yellow' is fucking ridiculous..... but whats more ridiculous is that if you get a silly yellow like that it now appears it lets you off of a stone wall yellow card a few mins later. Well it did for Bruno at least.... absolute joke, the ref knew it was a yellow as he booked Antonio for it about 10 mins later
He also booked one of their players for encroaching in the wall, then didnt re mark the wall, then watched them creep forward about another 3 steps before JWP took it
He shouldn't be near a premier league game for a while...... but the list of refs to choose from seems to be getting smaller and smaller
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martyboy
11:01 Mon Oct 9
Re: Peter Banks
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I agree, that there is corruption in the premiership refereeing. There is just too much money involved. The refs dont earn a "Fortune" there starting salary is 70K per year. I cant believe that one if not more are getting some sort of kick back from the Asian market where a foul given can be worth Millions!!! That clown yesterday is and has been the worst of the lot so far. He was awful the last time he reffed us. Not sure he has the brains to take a decent bung!!!
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